It’s Ok Not To Be Ok

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Does the medical profession make you feel like you got to have everything together because everyone around you is perfect? Everything and everyone has flaws, including physicians who are far from perfect but pretend everything is all good all the time.

In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks to Christine Runyan, co-founder of Tend Health, which brings a team of clinicians to the intersection of clinical care, health professions, and technology. Christine understands and views clinician well-being through the lens of a psychologist.

Topics Discussed:

  • How perfectionism negatively affects physicians’ mental health
  • Ways for physicians to address perfectionism proactively
  • Physicians’ Mental Health: Getting to the point of it’s ok to not be ok
  • Tend Health: All work done via video telehealth platform and care for physicians
  • Barriers: Licensing and credentialing process asks about mental health history
  • Stigma and Culture: Amplifies sense of self-determination to get through anything
  • Be Human First: Maximize privacy, confidentiality, access to mental health care
  • Physician Stereotype: Paradox that they need help, but too often suffer in silence
  • What’s expected? Know the right answer, be curious/authentic, ask questions
  • Financial Aspects: Average resident/fellow has six-figure student loan balance
  • Coping Strategies: Self-awareness is super power to being honest with yourself


Christine Runyan, PhD, ABPP

Christine Runyan’s Email:

Tend Health

Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME)

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